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Stanislas πŸ‘¨β€πŸ’» @angristan

1969:
-what're you doing with that 2KB of RAM?
-sending people to the moon

2017:
-what're you doing with that 1.5GB of RAM?
-running Slack

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@angristan i absolutely hate all these electron apps

@quad tfw you have chromium installed 20 times on your computer

@angristan @quad you could always just... not install them

@quad @angristan I get by fine not using any electron apps, life's good

@sir @angristan At work. Slack and Microsoft Teams are both pushed out and start on boot on my machine it can use like 5 GB right after boot once I open my browser.

At home the only electron app I use is KeeWeb because frankly the regular Keepass application just isn't that good.

@quad @angristan there's a pretty good weechat plugin for Slack. Also, pass > keepass

@quad @sir @angristan Thing is some electron apps aren't even unbearable. Even slack running in my browser, not electron slows my whole PC to a crawl. Electron's bad sure but slck's just exceptionally bad code on top of all that.

@sir @quad @angristan I don't use weechat and I don't want to.

@angristan @quad @sir I use hexchat + znc for IRC and don't wish to change.

@rx14 @sir @quad @angristan actually I do wish to change but what I change to would be a nih

@rx14 @quad @angristan you should give weechat an earnest try, it's vgood

@sir @rx14 @angristan weechat is pretty dope. Though it's annoying to use in platforms like Windows unless you spend ages setting up a perfect cygwin install

@rx14 @sir @angristan tfw i use basically every platform. Winblows, Linux, macOS, iOS, Android, Windows Phone and even FreeBSD are all things I use at least once a day outside of weekends

BTW Windows is the worst of them all. Especially the phone one.

@quad @sir @angristan @rx14 I run mine on a rpi so I can just ssh from my windows pc, linux laptop, android phone, and it all works great

@shpuld @rx14 @angristan @sir main problem I have with IRC is that ZNC's push notification module is retarded and never works. Gave up trying to keep it working after about 3 months of it ruining everything for me

@quad @shpuld @rx14 @angristan I just don't get push notifications. I check my highlights when I'm back online.

@sir @shpuld @rx14 @angristan I move too much for that. I don't have time to keep checking IRC. I used to keep an IRC app running in the background but that just kills battery life since it's not push.

I won't even see my main desktop again until Monday. About 2 hours today I'll be on one desktop and tomorrow it depends on if a package of hardware arrives or not what I'll be doing

@quad @shpuld @angristan @sir I don't want push notifications from irc kek

@rx14 @shpuld @angristan @sir I only use IRC for communication related to hosting and servers. Twitter and Mastodon for fun. The rest is business only.

Even Discord i only use to keep up with people I maintain bots and sites for. But at least it gives me push notifications so I don't need to put effort into keeping myself updated

@sir @quad @angristan I don't think the value proposition is there for me. I think the only thing that would get me to change is the android app, the rest is just minor.

@angristan @quad @rx14 on android I connect with Atomic, not weechat

@sir @angristan @quad why the heck does atomic require the device id permission

@Michcioperz @sir @angristan @quad wow maxpowa can call it a day and give up on his irc client already lmao

@sir @rx14 @quad @angristan I'd make it so but he tried twice and didn't understand f-droid's instructions for inclusion
he's in high school so there's that

@Michcioperz @sir @angristan @quad thanks so so so so so much for this its perfect. It even handles znc backlogs of 10000 lines at connection speed.

@rx14 @quad @angristan @sir while we're at it, it deduplicates backlogs by itself if you don't clear them on read

@rx14 @quad @angristan @sir @Michcioperz oh just one thing, there's no option to order channels alphabetically lol

@rx14 @quad @angristan @sir @Michcioperz wamm must always be the bottom channel, unacceptable

@rx14 @Michcioperz oh and Vexatos says thanks for the app too

@rx14 @angristan @quad @sir if weechat had a gtk/qt client id go for it

@rx14 @angristan @quad get over your fear of the terminal, weechat even works with the mouse

@sir @angristan @quad I don't have a fear of the terminal at all, I used vim for ages. Its just simply not as powerful. It'd be 99% ok for an irc client its the 1% that matters

@rx14 @angristan @quad I find it hiliarious that you think HexChat is more powerful than WeeChat

@sir @angristan @quad not in functionality, but in interface

@rx14 @sir @angristan i cannot think of a single thing the hexchat UI does that Weechat doesn't

@rx14 @sir @angristan It accepts whatever the fuck your terminal is configured to do so you can blame that on your terminal emulator not weechat

@angristan @sir @rx14 (Also I believe there is a script somewhere that does convert gtk colors to weechat colors)

@rx14 @quad @angristan @sir yeah weechat has a better interface than hexchat
basically almost the same thing

@Michcioperz @sir @angristan @rx14 enable the buffer bar and you've got essentially the same UI just in cli form

@Michcioperz @sir @angristan @rx14 Not to mention much better color customization than Hexchat's BG, FG and text colors if you really care.

If anything Weechat is also way more feature rich interface-wise too

@quad @Michcioperz @angristan @rx14 yeah rx you're just flat out wrong here. WeeChat is much more customizable than HexChat, visually and funcationally, and has many more features

@quad @Michcioperz @angristan @rx14 it's one thing to have a preference and another thing to lie about the competetion

@sir @quad @Michcioperz @angristan yeah you're right. I just remembered how good Emacs looks in the terminal.

@sir @rx14 @Michcioperz @angristan Can you share dotfile plz. That looks nice and functional. I lost mine a long time ago to Arch breaking and haven't bothered to set up a new one yet

@quad @rx14 @Michcioperz @angristan no, worst thing about weechat is the config files contain secrets

@sir @rx14 @Michcioperz @angristan Weren't those in the server.conf tho?

I dunno. I've never shared my weechat files

@kellerfuchs @sir @rx14 @Michcioperz @angristan By default it dumps things like your bouncer password into irc.conf though

@angristan @Michcioperz @rx14 @sir @kellerfuchs But now I know there's at least an option to do this. Thanks

@quad @angristan @Michcioperz @rx14 @sir Yeah, the main issue is that there aren't very reasonable options to setup encryption transparently for the user.

@rx14 @sir @angristan you do know that weechat is 5 billion times as powerful as hexchat right

@sir @quad @angristan "Your completely subjective opinion is objectively wrong"

@angristan @sir @quad I keep discord (which has more features than slack) open and it's fine compared to slack.

@quad @sir what don't you like about the basic keepass app (or KeePassXC) ? I've used Keeweb but honestly it's almost the same

@angristan @quad biggest problem with KeePass et al is that it isn't pass, which is the Right Way to do passwords

@angristan @quad passwordstore.org/

In a nutshell it encrypts your passwords with PGP and stores them in a git repository

@sir @quad Oh yeah I remember that. I don't really see why it would be better than a Keepass encrypted database though :thinking_hard:

@angristan @quad @sir It's relatively easy to sync across different computers. Really useful for someone like me who distrohops as well.

@Normandy @angristan @quad lol, pass is *way* easier to sync across computers. I even use it on NetBSD and Minix.

@sir @angristan Not really an option for me. For starters I need a web UI since at work and such I can only run whitelisted .exe files.

Also it generally becomes horrible to keep track of if you have thousands of passwords like me. Especially since a lot of them are things like domain users and management accounts that do not have a single domain name or identifier related to them

15 boosts in 5 minutes well it's pretty easy to be famous on mstdn :dunno:

@angristan You could problably run a Hello World in Java, too

@angristan 2020:
- what're doing with that 64GB of RAM?
- running a browser

@angristan Was just thinking about this last night/this morning. 99% of that is spent on layers of abstraction.

@musicmatze @angristan even cat pictures are memory eating these days πŸ€”πŸ˜