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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker (and my toilets are blocked) - new post on my website jayfax.neocities.org/mediocrit

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@tromino Imagine a file picker that didn't list the file names, only its creation dates.

Imagine having to deal with pungent sewage smell every time brushing your teeth.

@anjum but how is lacking a thumbnail view so important that a file picker is literally broken if it doesn't have it, that's what I don't understand

@tromino Read the article. A file picker has one job, and it's to be able to search and pick a file. I an unable to find pictures with it. Arguing about this is like arguing with my sister that no, the toilets aren't fine, it fails and it's basic job.

@tromino I can't completely convey how infuriating it is that people think this is "fine", this is "normal".

@anjum @tromino I noticed recently that I couldn't get a thumbnail view in the file picker (I use KDE and must have had a prog that was using GTK) but assumed it was something broken by me not running GNOME or having it fully installed.

@dan0xii @anjum one good thing is that a lot of apps have been gaining support to use the default native file picker on the system (through the desktop portal), it's how flatpak apps are able to open files without needing to have unrestricted access to your entire home folder

so maybe it is/will be possible to switch out the file picker manually somehow?

@tromino @anjum Thanks, I'll have to take a look into it. I just came across this problem in firefox yesterday, coincidentally, but it's rare that I would Save As.

@anjum btw I'm not saying that the option wouldn't be useful or that they shouldn't add it (even if I wouldn't use it personally), I just think you're way overreacting when you say that a file picker is unusable without it

@tromino Oh sure, and maybe I'm overreacting about my blocked toilets, cause hey—if you ignore a problem long enough you can get used to it, which my family have. This is my point, people have become so used to mediocrity that my expectation of a fully functioning file pickers is seen as overreacting.

@anjum I certainly don't see using a list-style file picker as a problem for me at all, not even an easy-to-work-around problem (which is why I don't think your analogy really works)

but again, I do think they should at least consider adding the option for the people who want it, even if they need to cross over some hurdles to do it (which they have used the "why would anyone want that" response in order to avoid dealing with technical problems in the past)

@tromino I can't think of any other modern file picker that doesn't have thumbnails. Not even on phones.

@anjum but I don't see how an icon view in the file picker would improve my life in any way

@tromino That's cause you're used to mediocrity and have accordingly shaped your life to avoiding the use case of needing to upload files. Again, basic functionality that in every popular operating system, particularly Android and iOS.

@tromino The reason why British cuisine sucks so much is because people here don't realise how good it can be.

@tromino So people accordingly and unconsciously shape their life to avoid the need to ever demand good food from restaurants and eateries.

@tromino So British people are like "why would I ever need something other than a fry up for breakfast", meanwhile my dutch friend came to the UK he was horrified at the hotel breakfast buffet.

@anjum I certainly don't avoid sending files over the internet

@anjum also, I think the fact that I still find it more convenient to use the file picker than to drag a file in from nautilus shows how not a big deal it is to me

@anjum as to what those "technical problems" could be in this specific case, I'm assuming in order to implement it they would either need to implement Nautilus's file view into GTK itself or ship their own patched file picker the way elementary does

though the latter is something I think they should be doing anyway instead of shoehorning their HIG into the toolkit itself

@anjum Every post about the GtkFileChooser is a good poast.

@anjum

That's the vision of the perfect desktop by GNOME(tm) for you.

Rust, JS, lots of dependencies and everything wrapped in bubblewrap (literally, because that's the sandboxing solution they use).
It's bloated and unusable.
At least give me bloated & usable DE, oh, wait KDE exists.

@xgqt @anjum it is usable, once you see past the start menu + list of apps in a panel paradigm, and yes I am not claiming it's perfect, but it is usable.

@minkiu

Of course I'm exaggerating.
Nevertheless I will always have the image of GNOME2 as superior in customizability.

@anjum It's stunning to me to read this from the USA. If this had gone on for any amount of time we would have fixed it ourselves and billed management.

@freethinkingperson I think its something well between the pipes that connect the two toilets, that subsequently connects to a soil stack; it's more of a problem with the bathroom toilet than the ensuite one.
Anyway, I'm unmotivated to fix it cause I don't use toilets. Would need to buy advanced plumbing/drainage equipment online. Me actually phoning "professionals" was out of the goodness of my heart, pitying the rest of my famimly.

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