@wolftune still... very little to admire about any of them.
> alternative economic model that would work for most websites
I'm working on one @snowdrift
well, I dunno about "most websites" but maybe.
Anyway, there's a zero-sum competition here for attention. Ads drive attention and take attention. If my competitors pay for ads that show up at the top of a search, I have to pay more to get there and compete to get people to MY website. Ads *cost* websites as much or more than they *fund* them!
@wolftune @lightweight @snowdrift Well, but it's not the same websites though: toyota.com buys ads and pays them with revenue from car sales, while, say, lwn.net and phoronix.com use the ads income to finance daily Linux news.
Both these sites also ask users to subscribe (which I do), but won't you agree that they might have to scale down their operations if they were forced to survive solely on subscription revenue?
For instance, many countries restrict advertisement of addictive substances and gambling. The US, UK and other common law countries prohibited provably false advertisement... but deceptive and psychologically manipulative advertisement is still fine.
I support reasonable regulations on ads. And yes, blocking the advertising of some of the worst things is good. But it's sorta like my quip elsewhere in this thread about social-investing.
Yes, we should ban marketing of prescription medication directly to consumers. But that's just a start.
I do find far more sympathy with arguments that maybe bans and regulations won't work or will have unintended consequences. I don't sympathize as much with "ads are fine"
@codewiz No. Any paid advertising contaminates all marketing. Imagine a world where you knew every exposure to a brand was earned, not bought, from those providing the exposure. The business of learning information would suddenly be a lot more simple, as bribery-motivated endorsements wouldn't be the norm. @wolftune @lightweight
@codewiz I don't think regulation is the way to go, even - I think it's more important we stop facilitating advertising with various grants and government purchasing of it. I'm concerned banning negative advertising, beyond provably false advertising, could be a political or social tool; imagine fb going "ads about other social media make us look bad, so should be banned." our governments aren't always bright, they might do it. @wolftune @lightweight
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