@sj_zero There is also an argument for a limited slavery for a short period of time, called indentured service. It also sucks. Copyright is just fucked up.
@Zettour Yes, they are better at screwing people over, for an elite few "clients." Just like robbers are effective at stealing your stuff for their boss. And tyrants are way more effective at tyranny than silly things like democracy and justice. Large corporations are terribly ineffective in every way other than screwing us over, so clearly people would choose them over all the other better options.
@Zettour I agree too much competition just gets people fighting over stupid things to beat their chest over. We *should* form cooperative organizations like corporations. But corporations also shield their stockholders from legal liability, and often hide their identity, and that just lets people get away with murder, as long as they hire someone else to do it. If corporations didn't put their stockholders above the law, then they might be tolerable.
@sj_zero What, are they going to hitch me to their cart and say they won't keep creating if I don't carry them around town? Creators don't stop creating just because I can copy their work. In fact, copyright stops creators from creating, because they're afraid of getting sued for copyright infringement. Copyright is a right granted to the publisher, not the artist, to use the police to suppress competition.
@sj_zero That knowledge was stratified by the warlords, not the artists. You know, the warlords who nowadays claim that they have the copyright and you don't, so cease and desist or they'll destroy you?
I do think that if copyright must exist, it has to be inalienable. But that just exposes how absurd it is for only the copyright holder being allowed to copy.
@sj_zero Those guilds and churches only hid their secrets with the support of the military. And again, they don't deserve copyright, patents, or trade secrets, because it's just anticompetitive bullshit. Yes they'll try to do all that, but making laws to help them do it so effectively that we've regressed into a technological feudalism is not the solution to that!
@wagesj45 I'd be all for the creative commons, except it's shooting yourself in the foot. It's the equivalent of someone stealing some lady's purse, and you stand there saying "I'll fix this! I valiantly decide not to steal lady's purses, myself." Then you congratulate the robber on the completely acceptable acquisition of their new purse, while trying to fashion your own out of some newspaper you dug out of the garbage.
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