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I want to use Univers as a font for future work but there's no open source version :crying:

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Wait, apparently Univers has been open sourced as part of Ghostscript

it was a lie, the AFPL isn't a true open source license... πŸ€”

should I assume there's no contradiction in this other LICENSE file?

Alright, talked with some Artifex engineers

[insert Roblox oof]

Here's the thing: Robin_Watts (apparently Robin Watts :blobcatsurprised: ) and kens (apparently Ken Sharp) have told me over IRC that the fonts are only licensed to Artifex by URW with the condition to have it shared as AFPL. That means that a new license from the creators (with the corresponding money and willingness) would be required for them to offer it as AGPL or anything else. :thinking_very_hard:

The conversation should appear at ghostscript.com/irclogs/2018/0 eventually.

OK so I contacted URW back then to see if perhaps they could accept licensing as e.g. AGPL.

I still didn't get any sort of reply :cookieqt:

I'm so extremely tempted by Univers but it's just so frustrating that there's no true FOSS version :crying:

So according to two links I've found, there's an open font called Universalist-std

but I can't find that

First list has a copy of Universalist! :blobcatsurprised: arkandis.tuxfamily.org/adffont

let's hope it works, is nice and has available source code

I was lied to

that's Universalis, a Futura-based font

OOOOOOOOOH I FOUND ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Apparently there's FreeUniversal and a fork called Perun AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

here's the official Perun website apparently localfonts.eu/freefonts/bulgar

and here's the guy who made it behance.net/stefanpeev

absolute respect for this absolute πŸ‘ mad πŸ‘ lad πŸ‘

there's apparently also Sophia Nubian as well

I'm impressed - how was it SO DAMN HARD to find these open source versions of Univers? Makes me think it may have even been on purpose, but I rather think that it's just that too little people have been interested and those who were asked to people who didn't want to make the effort to check.

Funny thing, Perun is hosted at Dropbox, which actually uses Atlas Grotesque, a neogrotesque font that just so happens to feel a lot like Univers

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@vaartis I mean, it seems worth it, does any better font exist at all? :thinking_up:

@vaartis that's exactly the idea, I drew over a He-Man frame :blobcatcoffee:

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