The only big "drunk-oriented distros" that seem to meet the basic job of letting people download the thing are, in best-to-worse order, Debian, elementary OS and Ubuntu. Everyone else (I can think of) sucks at it. If we then take into account installers, then Debian is out as well, although that should change in version 10.

Actually, eOS makes you fill your credit card details by default – that requires less brainpower but asks you to make the effort to move the body out of the computer screen. So worse then Ubuntu, I guess.

@espectalll can’t say I fully agree with you on openSUSE’s site as yes, before it used to be abysmal to navigate and nothing made logical sense but these days it’s pretty straight forward with 2 giant buttons letting you choose on hover, tho yea they could work on the descriptions for sure. Everything else you’re spot on.

@machete_Badger the difference between Tumbleweed and Leap is critical for newbies. Make one of them stand out over the other at least.

@espectalll I’d argue that openSUSE is not exactly a newbie distro and is rarely brought up in those conversations. Most people by then would understand the difference of having an extremely stable system over a bleeding edge one but both have their respective immutable procedures if push comes to shove, like rollback and OBS tested packages. I do see what you’re saying tho