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So yeah, only three ways to properly uninstall Play Services:

- find an exploit in the Play Services app,
- find an explot in Android itself, OR
- wipe the device

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There's also another challenge: if you uninstall every input method provided by the system, you won't be able to type your password in an encrypted phone unless ADB is enabled.

Yeah, I don't know how to feel about this one.

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Actually, that only applies with safe mode, so I think we're safe here

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This phone is basically begging to be wiped, I'll do a few more backups and then I'll dab on em spies

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Current mood: struggling to find out how to prevent the Play Services from becoming the device owner

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Apparently you need to do NFC provisioning to set a device owner... and how do you do that?

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So, you have to put the phone in contact with an NFC device (like another phone!) in order to a device owner. However, you still need to be able to somehow install the device owner APK... how can you do that if you don't even have ADB...?

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Apparently it can download the device owner/device policy controller/admin app from the Internet. I'm afraid it probably relies on Google Play for that, though.

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what the hell, apparently there's even a more unknown QR provisioning mode

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AHHHHHHHHH I JUST FOUND OUT HOW TO TELL ANDROID WHERE TO DOWNLOAD THE APK FROM

I CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A CUSTOM APP THAT REPLACES GOOGLE PLAY

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Installed a demo app. The moment of truth, let's see if I can uninstall Play Services with this one!

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Basically, I just tried to uninstall every Google package except com.google.android.packageinstaller and com.google.android.webview, I think that was it

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oh god

I just realized a mistake of mine

there's no camera app in here and I don't know why???

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I know where the APKs are but I get INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES

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Yup! That worked!

It should also work as a way to restore Play Services, funnily enough - so that's pretty flexible!

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Just decided to randomly try out Jami (ex-Ring) again since I need an SMS client for Android

oh hey it looks SLICK

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Also works way better than before at a first glance, everything synced seamlessly

Apparently though it's a phone app but not an SMS app?

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OK, so two things: first, I found a cute FOSS SMS client, it's called QKSMS f-droid.org/en/packages/com.mo

Second, Jami has a really really good way to manage profiles and devices that keeps it all secure and P2P and nice - just make sure to keep your password safe and it's all :blobcatmelt:

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I really really want to try out Jami with someone right now - I know I won't be using it daily because it lacks stickers, though :blobuwu:

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I also noticed their official fedi account is here on mstdn.io

top 10 epic fail gamer moments

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Decided to try out Etar as my calendar app.

It's Pretty Darn Goodโ„ข๏ธ

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I can also set it to "all day" and It Just Worksโ„ข๏ธยฉ๏ธยฎ๏ธ

damn, this is may be better than Google Tasks :blobcatrainbow:

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The fact that this is hosted without something like Google and yet seamlessly syncs to all my stuff feels amazing as well

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(keep in mind NetGuard reports so much battery usage in part because all web traffic is filtered through it)

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In the meantime I have: downloaded and installed apps like OSMand, read articles, watched/scrolled through videos on 4G, listened to hours of music with Bluetooth headphones, connected a keyboard and an USB drive (but yeah, the screen usage is low)

powered by a year old, 2870 mAh battery

lately it was lasting for half a day of usage, probably because of spending energy blocking Play Services - but with a regular setup, it would last for a day as long as I didn't use it much

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I would say that now that I have uninstalled Play Services, seeing the initial results, it should be able to last for 2-3 days without recharging, even when actively used for stuff like video playing/recording. Stay tuned :blobuwu:

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funny to think that, even without Any sign of Play Services, Internet usage is still the #1 cause of battery drain. If I had used the phone more actively though, that may have changed to the screen.

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ok phone is in 2%, I doubt it's lasting 3 or 4 more hours, I'm charging it :blobuwu:

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@espectalll the tread is ultra mega long... you mean its a google free smartphone rom???

@Ste1lar no, I just uninstalled Google Play Services from my stock Sony Android

@Ste1lar the relevant parts are:
- wipe phone
- on the welcome screen, tap six times to get a secret QR reader
- scan QR code for installing an app like TestDPC
- uninstall that app and all Google apps (except the package installer and the web engine)

this may not even be necessary, I've been told it's possible to uninstall it from an existing account as well

@espectalll so it will completely stop privacy sucking? (exept tracking via the sim card)

@Ste1lar @espectalll You'll get the same result by preventing apps from syncing.

I get 7 days of battery life on a Pixel 3 I never use by simply switching on airplane mode. If you want to keep cell data, you can simply not sign in with a Google account and not install any app that does it's own polling (LINE, WhatsApp, Facebook, k9mail...)

@Ste1lar @espectalll a phone that can't receive IM notifications can still be useful, but I doubt most users would want it.

@Ste1lar @codewiz you can disable networking if you're not even using the web, WhatsApp, Telegram or alike ofc

if not your case, uninstall Google

@espectalll @Ste1lar Or simply disable wifi and cell data. You can still receive SMS and calls and the battery will last a lot.

But seriously, who's still using SMS and phonecalls? On my phone, these apps all the way to the last page of the home screen because I rarely need them.

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