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Is it me, or is Google making Material Design worse just to push their branding into it, thus making the idea that Android is a Google product stronger? medium.com/@helloVRGSoft/mater

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Further looking into it: Chrome is also going to push this "Material Design 2" into it, and it does feel like Google pushing their branding into Material, instead of them applying Material into their branding bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/i

And finally, remember that Android Wear is now called "Wear OS by Google". I believe Google is now thinking of Android, or at least AOSP, as "Pixel OS by Google". I wouldn't trust Android P and upper as well as the new Chromium as this trend only seems to be increasing.

@espectalll and than there is Google Fuchsia which is intended to replace Android and Linux as a kernel for this OS

@GeekDaddy I'm not sure if your statement makes sense tbh, but yeah, Fuchsia has its own kernel, APIs and a Flutter-based interface. The low-level stuff is overall very nice but it's still getting Google branding and features all around.

@espectalll Android P?!

But I just got on Android O like a week ago!

@espectalll i love how how the "current" update is always way behind the currently advertised update😂

Like I get beta testing but really google

@haze231 luckily Treble updates are now a thing but I have yet to see any phone manufacturer doing them

@espectalll did you hear Huawei just dropped the U.S. market☹️

@haze231 I know, thanks to Trump & co. I wouldn't care because I don't live there - except they're now bombarding Spain with ads because they want to milk us out to compensate losing the US market.

@espectalll i dont see the problem besides the...very very slow swap transition, like what the heck is up with that?

@oct2pus It's ironically the only thing that is fine, since the slowdown is for testing purposes

@espectalll for me they starting to copy the shitty candy-like design of iOS. Sadly MS back out from mobile race. Windows Phone had some good, innovative design features. From OSS community can't see anyone to compete against the iOS/Android duo.

@espectalll Material design just kind of sucks in general. There's (imho) far too much white space, and it seems that many developers have foregone information presentation in favor of "IS IT NOT PRETTY?"

@harmlessgryphon Nah, I don't think the original Material Design does an inefficient use of space, just like I don't think GNOME does either (if the app uses CSD at least). The space's purpose is to give a clean layout regardless of the display being used while still giving focus on the content, and I believe it does so properly.

@espectalll It's not really inefficient, but there are those of us that prefer a more dense information layout. Material design doesn't allow for that.

@harmlessgryphon Actually, Material DOES allow for that: you can use a smaller density by changing the size of the interface on Android settings, for instance.

@espectalll A lot of websites that follow the principles don't have that option, tho. For example my insurer used to have a nice, dense information presentation of claims and bills. Now, it's page after page of white space and very little information.