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Anyone got figures on the number of users & servers/instances for XMPP versus Matrix?

@fitheach 100 XMPP device - 1 device Matrix.
The XMPP Federation is 100 times the size of the Matrix

@orbifx
Cool!
I like this one:
Schrödingers Chat ([email protected])
if only for the name.

@fitheach It's hard to count. Matrix has more public group communication ("rooms"), while XMPP is more used for private chat, esp. one-to-one. The latter is hard to count.

@debacle
Oh, right. I hadn't appreciated there was a split like that.

@orbifx posted this link for Jabber/XPMM:
search.jabbercat.org/rooms/1

Is there something similar for Matrix?

@fitheach It's impossible to say since both are self hostable and no one can say how many there are. For matrix list is at the-federation.info/protocol/m but the count needs to be taken with a heavy grain of salt - likely it is much larger.

@jaywink
Thanks for that. A nice long list of Matrix nodes. I see what you mean about big pinches of salt, the corresponding XMPP list only has two nodes:
the-federation.info/protocol/x
That's quite some selection bias. 😉

@fitheach well to be fair, the xmpp community hasn't provided a parser to scrape xmpp servers. Not intended to make xmpp look bad. Contributions welcome, would be happy to have a better list of xmpp servers 👍

@jaywink
Again, no criticism meant, I was meaning selection bias in a statistical sense.

There is a list of XMPP/Jabber nodes at:
search.jabbercat.org/rooms/1

I don't know how it is compiled.

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