-replaces Facebook:
-Diaspora: https://diasporafoundation.org/
-Aardwolf (alpha?): https://aardwolf.social/
-Patchwork/SSB: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/
-replaces Instagram:
-Lychee (Self-hosted only/not federated):
https://lychee.electerious.com/
-quit.im: https://quit.im/
-replaces WhatsApp:
-Matrix: https://matrix.org/
-Signal: https://signal.org/
-Jitsi: https://jitsi.org/
-IRC(Self-hosted only/not federated)
@calvin
oh wow
@funbreaker
-replaces WhatsApp
Wire https://wire.com/
Signal requires you to give your contact your phone number, Wire has usernames.
@127
Thanks!
@127 @funbreaker ++ for Wire. Been using it for about a year, does great for conferencing.
@127 @funbreaker - XMPP 💪
@got3xx @127 @funbreaker YES! my choice too!
Another downside of Signal (as I have experienced it at least): it seems to proclaim that you send encrypted sms messages when you both use Signal but it switches to "normal" Internet packages.
So yes you send encrypted messages but not with your mobile provider's text service but through your ISP's network...
Silence can actually send encrypted text messages but practically nobody is using it and there isn't an auto-discovery of other users...
@RyuKurisu @funbreaker Silence. I've never heard of that. Looks cool but only for SMS. I haven't used SMS since 2010.
@127
Wire +1 good.security (but not federate)
@funbreaker
@funbreaker @angristan there's also Wire though it's not federated so you have to self host or use the official server (same as signal)
@funbreaker Like seeing an agenda for my day.
@funbreaker
It's amazing how many choices we have. Great list.
@funbreaker Saving this foto later!
@funbreaker @angristan Nice and dandy (that's why I am here), but nothing's going to replace people using fb/tt/insta. #networkEffect
@funbreaker Replace WhatsApp: Telegram
@funbreaker sad to hear that. But Durov said that Telegram will stand for freedom and privacy, isn’t he?
@kholid @funbreaker After my recent adventures with Telegram I can only recommend to stay away from it.
First of all, it's a complete vendor lock in. Seriously, try to get your messages out there and you are lost.
Also it uses (theoretically) broken crypto.
Apart from that it has no real legal entity which means when they abuse your data, you can't sue them.
http://telegra.ph/Why-Isnt-Telegram-End-to-End-Encrypted-by-Default-08-14
http://www.cryptofails.com/post/70546720222/telegrams-cryptanalysis-contest
I hope that's enough material to read ^^
@sheogorath @funbreaker thanks dude, pretty good read list. :)
@funbreaker Great list; thank you. Replacements for Tumblr: ello
@funbreaker add Keybase.io -- replaces Dropbox + WhatsApp + Github + Slack (sort of)
@funbreaker
Je ne connaissais ni lychee ni quitim... Y a-t-il des personnes qui ont testé les 2? Ça me parle et je vais creuser: merci
@funbreaker Do any of these have a way of making posts visible only by people on a list of trusted friends, enforced with cryptography (rather than sending the plaintext and trusting that all federations servers are honest)?
Maybe possibly storing private keys in the browser is a compromise, but storing it in a real local node is far safer than trusting the admin to never subvert the code to steal your key.
text/image files -> tarred -> encrypted+signed with pgp -> gzipped -> converted to png -> dm'ed to recipient
@funbreaker "replaces Instagram" maybe for people that want to share selfies. quit.im is not "For-profit businesses" and probably even talking about business email will get you banned. Lychee is more for photographers, but it's not federated, and it's not Instagram replacer. And nothing can beat amount of users (and photographers) on Instagram tbh.
@funbreaker problem with replacing whatsapp (here in the UK at least), is no one really uses anything else. So there's no real point in using an alternative messenger if no one uses it.
So this perpetual cycle continues. Such a shame, as there are some great alternatives out there.
@funbreaker great list, thanks.
I like really the idea of quit.im, but it seems incredibly slow on safari on my iPhone. Hardly loads at all. Anyone know of an app for it? Couldn’t find anything in the App Store, but it can be hard to find stuff there sometimes.
> replaces Facebook
- Hubzilla (hubzilla.org / https://medium.com/we-distribute/the-do-everything-system-an-in-depth-review-of-hubzilla-3-0-692204177d4e)
- indieweb (indieweb.org)
> replaces Instagram
- indieweb (indieweb.org)
@funbreaker or you could just not replace any of them. I’m rather over ‘social media’ while still valuing social networking. Just finishing book ‘Deep Work’ - good read.
@funbreaker >mentions IRC but not XMPP, which federates very well.
@benrob0329 oops
but also my exprience with XMPP has had nothing but spam and dead rooms
@funbreaker I'm in a few public chats, but yeah most of the old jabber.org MUCs are dead. We could start some, though.
@funbreaker This toot introduced me to Lychee which looks like it will be of great use to me; thank you!
@funbreaker How is Lychee?
@funbreaker nitpicker's corner:
> -IRC(Self-hosted only/not federated)
IRC used to be federated, but the federation broke apart in the Eris incident. Basically, the protocol is very naïve and trusting of netops, allowing them to do global operations, and eris was intentionally configured to allow federation with any server - so anyone could just apply global netop commands....