**r҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖** @cypnk@mastodon.social · Sep 19, 2017, 22:33

**r҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖** @cypnk@mastodon.social · Sep 19, 2017, 22:33

r҉ustic cy͠be̸rpu̵nk🤠🤖 @cypnk@mastodon.social

Chrome's private browsing is broken

This defeats the purpose of Incognito. If any website is able to tell you're browsing in private mode, then the browser is leaking data that shows it's not private

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · Sep 19, 2017, 22:42

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · Sep 19, 2017, 22:42

@cypnk The same can be said of ad blocking. When a "deactivate your ad blocker" screen comes up it should be treated as a high-priority bug in the blocker.

**varx (is elsewhere now)** @varx@i.write.codethat.sucks · Jan 06, 2018, 01:59

**varx (is elsewhere now)** @varx@i.write.codethat.sucks · Jan 06, 2018, 01:59

@mattskala @cypnk Not a high priority. Adblockers are always detectable, and their primary function is not to be undetectable (unlike the virus/AV game.)

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · Jan 06, 2018, 02:02

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · Jan 06, 2018, 02:02

@varx @cypnk Being detectable interferes with their primary function, and it's not obvious to me why it would be necessary. The bits on the wire could be the same regardless of whether all of them end up displayed on the screen.

**varx (is elsewhere now)** @varx@i.write.codethat.sucks · Jan 06, 2018, 02:07

**varx (is elsewhere now)** @varx@i.write.codethat.sucks · Jan 06, 2018, 02:07

@mattskala @cypnk They have to be detectable because they interfere with the functioning of the page; they change what scripts are loaded, and it's trivial to discover that.

You can play a cat-and-mouse game and even go so far as to modify the site's Javascript to bypass the bits that notice the adblocker, but at that point you're deep into diminishing-returns territory.

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · 2018-01-06T02:10:00Z

Matthew Skala @mattskala

@varx @cypnk We may place different values on the returns involved. As far as I'm concerned the pop-up that starts with "We noticed..." is a *big problem*, worth a lot of effort to prevent, and that effort is central to what I expect from my ad blocker.

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**Tablesaw Tablesawsen** @Tablesaw@mastodon.social · Jan 06, 2018, 03:25

**Tablesaw Tablesawsen** @Tablesaw@mastodon.social · Jan 06, 2018, 03:25

@mattskala @varx @cypnk The site necessarily needs to know whether the ads it wants to run are actually running, otherwise it could be held accountable for fraud.

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · Jan 06, 2018, 03:26

**Matthew Skala** @mattskala · Jan 06, 2018, 03:26

@Tablesaw @varx @cypnk That's the site's problem. I am under no obligation to help.