Another HN thread about Emacs. I don't think I've ever seen anyone using Emacs as a daily driver editor in the past 5 years...

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3

@nuclear why people talking about Emacs is a problem for you ?

If they want to talk about, it's totally Ok.

I daily use Emacs since more than 10 years, for a lot of things (not only code). I'm verry happy with that. But regularly, I meet people who think its unacceptable for someone to use Emacs. And they generally act in a bad way.

@postroutine It's not a problem, it's just that there are superior alternatives and it's obsolete.

@nuclear "superior ajternatives", "obsolete": Two very wrong ideas.

@postroutine Superior as in able to complete the same tasks faster and easier while requiring no time to be spent on configuration, or able to complete tasks impossible for the counterpart.

@nuclear Emacs is fast and simple. Seeing the configuration and the learning of a tool as a bad thing is arbitrary. And I can do with Emacs every things I want or need.

The problem is that you see what you prefer as an universal requierment. Peoples have differents needs and that why there is no superior tools. The goal is to offer to people what they need or want. For some it's Emacs, for other it's something else.

@postroutine BTW, Emacs is extremely far from "simple". It has been ridiculed for years for being bloated and slow. Even despite the hardware catching up, it's still slow because of no multithreading. And the complexity of the config required to make it useful for anything is enormous. Compare it with Intellij or VS Code that just works out of the box.

@nuclear Emacs is based on simple principles, on a simplified Lisp adapted to text manipulation.
It's different from what people see on Windows world, but different don't mean complex.

@nuclear "It has been ridiculed for years for being bloated and slow."

Wrong cliche are not an argument. I used Emacs on very old hardware, with low CPU, few RAM and disk space, and it was fast and effective.

And about the config, I will repeat: Learning and customizing a tool is not a bad Thing.
I already exposed my arguments about it in another toot.

@nuclear What emerges from our discussion is that you don't know Emacs, except a few cliches.
Emacs does not correspond to what you search in a tool. But your requirement is not universal.
The goal is to every one use the tool adapted to their need. There is no "superior" or "inferior" tool.
And no one is obsolete.

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@postroutine I'd like to see how you're using it for everyday programming. Do you have any recording or maybe you do live coding?

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