@orbifx "Fixing things is often free" venant d'un site qui vend les outils de réparation, il fallait l'oser :)
A part ça, je suis bien d'accord avec eux.
@orbifx Counterpoint: owning things is bad, and so is having to learn all the skills needed to run a technological civilisation for yourself. Fix things for other people if you enjoy it. If you don’t, then find another skill and offer that.
Indeed it does.
@nepfag you can't _fix_ that 😅 Let it pass.
@orbifx Say what you will about USSR, but back then in Russia all electronics came with schematics as a part of usual paperwork, exactly to make repair easier.
@orbifx well, what about fixing democraties?
@orbifx still, maybe it's better that nobody "own" democracy ^^
@LPS regulation here would be nice, but kinda hard to implement. As far as ideals go, I prefer aiming for people's awakened thinking.
@orbifx I'm not quite so optimistic ... I think most people operate on a more instinctual level and behaviour changes due to external factors. Basically if it's cold you put on a coat, too warm take it off. By passing local bylaws that prohibit the use of or taxing single use products, businesses will simply go the next available/cheaper option. Which if you do it right would be reusables or recycled products.
But entropy causes chaos and one must have chaos still to give birth to a dancing star
Well, basically it's only a matter of money.
If you send the device in, it can normally always be repaired
@Vamp898 not it's not about that. The point is about _most_ users, maybe not always everyone, being able to repair it themselves and for the repair to be cost effective.
Well yes and no. It can be a security risk if you, for example, replace the battery yourself, especially when you use a cheap 3rd party battery (and its hard to get official ones).
Also the technology is getting more and more complex, for example its almost impossible to repair an Xperia without destroying the water sealing. And thats not because Sony hates you, its just because it is a complex thing.
If you want to create an high end waterproof smartphone that's 5mm thick, it will result in an extremely complex design, there is no way around that.
But why not? It's very useful. You can't just not invent something because it would be to complex to repair it at home. That way, most things would not exist
Because most people can't do it. No matter how easy it might be, most people just are not capable in doing so.
I'd say that at least 90% can not replace an Harddisk in an simple, standard desktop tower.
So they do not care how easy it is to repair, they can't do it anyway.
I can replace synchros in transmissions, changing breaks is something I do with eye closed.
The majority of people don't even know how to check the oil level.
Richard Stallman himself clearly draws a line between software and hardware, as Linus Torvalds do.
You can't just built you own smartphone in your garage, but you can build an kernel in your garage.
Do you think it will ever be possible to repair broken CPUs? Or that CPUs should be simple (slow) enough that people can repair it.
Do you think nature cares if you can do an bypass on your heart by yourself?
But you can freely build your mind, as you can freely build software
If you are not a trained, certified, expert in that field, a self repair can go horribly wrong up to the part where someone gets hurt.
That doesn't mean that some very easy/simple things, especially in Apple products, are made in a way you can't repair it, but if you are not an expert, you should not really repair it.
That doesn't imply that you don't really own it just because you can't repair it.
That's just plain impossible. Fairphone tried that and failed, others tried that and failed. It's not that simple.
@Vamp898 how did it fail?
By not succeeding.
When my phone broke, I sent it to Sony. It came back almost as new with new warranty and everything and the repair was way cheaper than the price of the phone
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