people don't talk much about their pronouns in Finland

I wonder if it's because there is only one third-person pronoun in Finnish, no gendered ones exist :thonking:

@vurpo Extremely likely. To the point that in Sweden they're trying to introduce a made-up pronoun inspired by Finnish language. And for once that means they're copying from Finland's, instead of the usual “Finland copies $FOO from the former colonial power”.

@vurpo Also, people from Finland tend to make amusing faces and remarks when I randomly call Finland a “former colony of Sweden” or like in the previous toot I call Sweden the “former colonial (invader) power”. After a few years here it still gets me.

@aperezdc not as much a colony or invader, as just a part of Sweden. The idea of an independent land of Finns didn't even exist until much later, so it's not like the Swedes had anything to "invade" or "colonize". Although from your comment, maybe you already know this :thonking:

@vurpo Yes, I am aware. Though the fact that Swedish rule imposed Lutheranism and (to some degree) language, while taking advantage of the resources is technically still colonialism. Even if the local population didn't think of themselves “we belong to this place called Finland” :thounking:

(BTW, of course I came from abroad so I can miss the finesse and not know many things that locals do... Nevertheless I have lived here for >7 years, and hopefully I bring a fresh point of view)

@vurpo Also, I have nothing against Sweden nor about its historical role... I just like to entertain the idea of trying to change of how we perceive facts to make people's head itch and get all of as thinking about how perception about history came to be. We have a lot of that (steering historical perception) in Spain, where I'm from, so this kind of mental play is something I've been doing for a long time 😄

@aperezdc The Swedish language was not really imposed on Finns, it has always just existed here as long as the language itself has existed. But as a consequence of the areas being under Swedish government, all official matters were indeed done in Swedish, while the Finns still spoke Finnish. (Finnish was not really a suitable language for official business anyway at the time, because it lacked a writing system and everything)

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