I get very exhausted when people use their knowledge about how things are done in the big tech / surveillance capitalism (or maybe just "capitalist") world, and try and apply it in totally different domains, like community-focused volunteer projects.

Almost all the implicit assumptions don't hold.

Capitalist projects have a lot of resources to solve problems because they are willing to engage in destructive and extractive behaviours.

If we remove that part, the equation massively changes.

in capitalist tech: massive user growth ---> lots of money (funding) available --> pay fancy people to do fancy scaling things

in community project: massive user growth ---> aaaah everything is really chaotic now, there are loads of tasks that nobody wants to (or can) do... it's like actual work!! I thought this was meant to be fun...

the solution to me is to scale out, not up, federate don't grow. but still, people seem more focused on big ideas that need to scale up to be successful.

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@nicksellen true! but federation is hard too. It requires solving a lot of technical and social problems that do not arise with centralized systems… we need to be more clever with less resources!

@pintoch @nicksellen "federation is hard" is repeated often but people often ignore that building services at a large scale requires solving most of the federation problems anyways - but internally, within a company infrastructure - in order to provide geographical sharding and resilience, rolling deployments and more.

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I think there is some overlap between federation and internal scale-out, but on top of that, there is a large portion of difficult problems that are specific to federation.

And that is administrative scalability.
In other words, the ability for different parts of the network to have different rules, be administrated by different people who don't always agree, and still coexist.

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