i wanted to like Sam Harris, but never did.
i think he tries to push his little rational mind too much. He wanted to be the god of everything but is a bit short. I find Peterson, Paglia, much more intellectually rich.

the thing with Sam Harris is like, he's 1 trick pony. The reasons against
god has been laid out flat by 1990s, particularly Bertrand Russell. Sam
is more like a activist. While, you read or watch Jordan Peterson, Camille
Paglia, you get more rich ideas.

i've actually just watched the first 90 min of this video.
Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson debate on religion.
if you've never studied philosophy of religion, this might be good wedge in

in this vid, Jordan is bogged down by his painstaking obsession with
precision of his utterances. on the surface seems extremely precise but really are just verbiage.
Normally, he's not this wasted. but maybe because the subject matter and context of debate with another academic.

@xahlee I first encountered him as a speaker in the Long Now seminar series. He opened his monologue by saying, approximately, "I'm going to worry out loud with you," followed by an hour of boredom.

He strikes me as one of those people that confuses knowledge and intelligence with wisdom; I've heard him make some extremely clever, well-thought out arguments in a few domains.

I hope (and presume) his books are better than his public presentations.

@jeremiah sam harris n jordan peterson had a couple of debates on stage.

am gonna watch them and see how it goes.

found this one first

@xahlee the first one is a washout -- the second one is much better. The first one, they get hung up on semantics, which I think says more about Harris than Peterson.

@jeremiah i see. interesting. guess i'll have to watch the second.

spend 100 min watching the first this morn. wasn't going to, but persisted. always interested in philosophy. haven't thought about this for a decade. refreshing to be reminded how it was like in phi debates.

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