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@jz Other issues with :

* code quality is marginal - endless parade of small bugs, especially with the desktop client
* moxie is a jerk on github a little too frequently
* moxie is hostile to people running LineageOS

deutrino

@jz That being said, I finally have the vast majority of my contacts including many non-technical people using a secure messenger for the first time in history. Change will be slow and many of the alternatives are not currently viable for non-technical users, partly due to usability and partly due to the network effect of "I'm not installing yet another app that runs yet another service just to talk to one person."