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Wolf480pl

me: thinkpads are cool and have nice warranty

internet: don't buy thinkpads, lenovo is trash

me: ok ok I'll buy ASUS instead

ASUS: *tries to scam customers who try to use warranty*

I guess I could still buy a second-hand ASUS laptop and ignore the "it's still has a year of warranty left" part.

And find a good third-party repair shop in case it breaks...

@wolf480pl Lenovo is trash but we don't have anyhting better

@roobre I think I'm gonna drive to the repair shop that does lenovo warranty repairs around here and ask what other brands they also have a repair deal with

@wolf480pl @roobre I have good experience with Dell laptops and warranty

@wolf480pl I've heard good things about Framework laptops. MNT Reform might be worth a look, too, if you're inclined to turn tinkering with your laptop into a hobby.

@lykso I think MNT Reform is the opposite of what I need.

At this point in life I have a bougie "I want to drive with my laptop to your place and have it repaired in an hour" type of approach, at least for my daily driver.

I could use something more tinkerable for a secondary laptop, but not for 1000 EUR.

@wolf480pl Yeah, that's fair. I don't think the Reform is what most people want or need, though it does a fantastic job of filling its niche.

@wolf480pl reality is a dumpsterfire nowadays..

@wolf480pl@mstdn.io The truth is that all major laptop manufacturers are trash, we just pick favorites out of desperation

@asie if your warranty is like my experience with Lenovo's business laptop warranty, making trash laptops is acceptable

@wolf480pl@mstdn.io There is, indeed, a difference between "consumer-grade trash" (who cares if we lose a customer, they have nowhere else to go as we're the cheapest) and "business-grade trash" (if we lose a customer they might not buy another fleet of 100 laptops from us and that'd actually kind of suck).

@wolf480pl Normally my laptops are pretty obsolete by the time they break (5+ years old) so I get a new one.

@sjb I had a fan issue with my (employer's) Thinkpad T14 Gen 1 in the first 2 years of use.
Also, I expect on some laptops connectors may wear out prematurely, especially USB-C if used for charging.

@wolf480pl I've always bought whatever looks pretty/is on sale on Amazon (ASUS, Samsung netbooks, Toshiba, Microsoft Surface). Never had an early failure - just luck I guess?

Either I spill juice on them, the TSA broke one, or the Samsung netbook from 2008 with Windows XP went on for so long I just had to throw it out after 15 years.

It sounds like your Thinkpads are pretty unreliable unless you've just been unlucky.

@sjb one thinkpad.

I also have a laptop that I've been using for 9 ears and still does the job, although it's struggling with modern web. But this one mostly sits on the desk.

I think fan blades breaking is pure RNG when we're talking about a laptop that is carried around a lot.

And charging connector wearing out is I think a new issue introduced with USB-C - I had issues with it in my phone too.

@wolf480pl A few of mine were passively cooled netbooks so no fans. I do recall smashing the screen on one of the ASUS netbooks and rather painfully replacing it myself, shattering a lot of monitor glass in the process...

My Microsoft Surface thing that was somehow discounted to $259 does have a fan so I'll see how long that lasts.

I would also guess high-power-rated laptops will die earlier because of thermal cycling.

@sjb oh, also i had one netbook that needed a display cable replacement

@wolf480pl I loved think pad until the P16 now I'm ready to switch to another brand.